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Die Übersetzung von Jans Stimme vom Deutschen ins Englische wurde mit einer KI erstellt.

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Für mich ist es auch ein innerer Angst.

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Ich habe auch ein innerer Angst, weil meine Familie hier ist,

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meine Kinder hier sind. Ich sehe, was passiert um uns, besonders was zwei Tage

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vorhin, wenn ein Drone struck a store.

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Ich sehe, dass ich wieder eine Negliganz auf die Polizei, die Militär und unsere Autorität sehe.

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Nobody seems to be thinking about security, and nobody is even taking basic

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steps to protect important locations.

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I have returned to Posad-Pokrovska once again, this small village in southern

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Ukraine, situated between Mykolaiv and Kherson.

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When I was here last year, I left thinking of it as a village of hope. Now I am back.

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New houses have been built, roads have been repaired, but while I have been

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here, drones have struck repeatedly, and so Posad Pokrovsky has become,

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for me, a symbol of life in Ukraine itself, a life lived between hope and fear.

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In Crisis Mode, the podcast from Conflict Zones with Jan Jessen.

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Hello, I'm Jan Jessen, war and crisis correspondent for Funke Media Group.

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You can find my reports in NRZ, WAZ, Berliner Morgenpost and Hamburger Abendblatt.

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I'm back in Posad-Bokrovské. Many of you already know this place.

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We have featured it several times on this podcast before and will include links in the show notes. Als.

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Ich sagte, ich sagte, aber einige Hundert sind seitdem zurückgekehrt.

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Ich erinnere mich an unsere erste Besuchung zu Posat-Pokrovska in dem Jahr 2022.

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In fact, wir waren nur durch den Weg nach Kursen. Aber ich habe die Leute leben im Hintergrund.

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Was mich struck, dass die Leute zurückgekehrt waren, die etwas mehr als eine

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Landschaft von rubbel geworden sind. Since dann, wir haben diese Stadt und einige

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von ihren Residenen genommen, zurückgekehrt von Zeit zu Zeit,

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um zu sehen, wie Reconstruction ist und was die Zukunft der Zukunft sehen.

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When I came back this time, though, I immediately sensed that the mood had changed.

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Posad Pokrovska is once again within range of Russian drones.

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The contrast was surreal. On the one hand, there were children playing in a

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park, a remarkable and hopeful project that we will come back to later.

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On the other hand, I found myself standing at a gas station we had visited countless

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times before, and that gas station had become a ruin.

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On June 5th, a Russian Shahed, or Geran, drone struck it.

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Four people were killed in the attack. One of them was a woman I knew.

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We used to stop there often for coffee and hot dogs. One of the saleswomen I

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had come to know over the years was killed in the June 5th attack.

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And it was not the only gas station that had been hit.

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While I was in Posad Pokrovske, the village's second gas station also came under attack.

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The morning after the strike, I spoke to Ivan, the attendant.

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He was standing on the forecourt, while workers had already begun repairs.

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Ivan was wearing body armor, more precisely, a fragmentation vest.

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It was the first time he had ever worn one. And somehow, despite everything,

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he is trying to keep everyday life going.

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In the middle of the night, an FPV drone hit the canopy. Shrapnel flew across

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the station, but thank God everyone survived.

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Wir werden die windows mit OSB-Paneln und alles gut sein können.

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Die Gas Station ist operatet als usual.

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Die FPV-Drones Ivan ist mit der kleinen Kamikaze-Drones.

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Sie haben nicht eine sehr lange range, vielleicht über 20 km.

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Aber sie haben Explosive-Charges und sind direkt in ihre Targets von Operatoren.

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Was ist neu, ist, dass die Russen jetzt Molnir-Drones benutzen.

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These are also kamikaze drones, but cheap fixed-wing devices made from aluminium tubing and plywood.

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They are crude and inexpensive, costing around $500 apiece. But they have a

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greater range than conventional FPV drones.

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That is probably one of the reasons why Posad Pokrovsky is being attacked again.

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The village is actually relatively far from the front line, more than 30km away.

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But these Molnir drones are now evidently reaching the village and striking targets there.

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The Shahed drones I mentioned earlier, known in Russia as Geron drones,

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are long-range drones with much larger warheads than FPV drones.

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It was one of those that completely destroyed the other gas station.

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Ivan was lucky in a way, but he told me that all gas stations are effectively

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marked as red dots, potential military targets, and he admitted that he has

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no idea what will happen next.

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Perhaps his station too will be struck by a Shahed or Geron drone and destroyed,

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but with a kind of fatalism he simply said, These things happen,

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and it is not only the gas stations that are being attacked.

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On the morning I arrived in Posadpokrovskoy, the village store in the centre was hit as well.

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It is just a small corner shop, the kind of place where people buy their everyday necessities.

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When I got there, the damage was still plainly visible. All the windows had

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been shattered and had since been replaced with plywood sheets.

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Shrapnel marks were clearly visible on the shelves and throughout the building.

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The facade itself was scarred by the blast And what struck me,

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much as it had with the gas station Was what happened next One of the saleswomen

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had been injured and taken to hospital,

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Yet that same evening, people cleaned up the damage And the next day,

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the shop reopened Because people need to buy groceries And because giving up is simply not an option,

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Vadim works alongside Oleg, whom you heard at the beginning We have spoken about

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Oleg several times on this podcast Together with friends, the local resident

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founded an initiative called More Action, Less Talk.

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Over the years, they have carried out countless reconstruction projects.

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Vadim is one of the volunteers, and he speaks with remarkable calm, without any drama.

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My name is Vadim, and I have been living in Posad Pokrovsky for the third year, since 2024.

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What can I say? Over the last few months, and perhaps even the last few weeks,

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the situation has not been very good.

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Drones and Shahed drones continue to fly over the area.

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And unfortunately, there have already been incidents that resulted in fatalities.

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But overall, we are somehow managing and carrying on.

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It is something you encounter again and again across Ukraine.

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A kind of resignation to fate, a certain fatalism.

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People know they are living in

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danger, but at the same time they tell themselves that life has to go on.

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Yet in Posad Pokrovsky, you can also sense something else. People are increasingly

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frustrated with their own government.

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Part of that frustration stems from the fact that Kiev made big promises when

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it came to reconstruction, but so far relatively little has materialized.

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To be fair, some progress has been made. Around 100 new houses have been built,

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some of them with state funding.

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But I think people had expected much more, especially since President Zelensky

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himself visited the village and made major promises to the residents.

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And that is what concerns Oleg as well.

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He is critical of the authorities and says they are not doing enough to protect

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the village, particularly its vulnerable and strategically important sites,

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places like the local store or the gas stations.

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We can help provide protection, for example, along the central streets.

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Wir können schon schon helfen, wie Stores und Gas Stations zu unterstützen,

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die sich schon seit langem vorhanden haben.

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Aber für einen Fall, niemand denkt darüber, dass das nicht.

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Die incompetence von unseren Autorenzen ist sehr gefährlich.

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Overall, however, wir tun alles, was wir können.

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Und ich hoffe, dass alles alles gut wird in der Ende des Endes.

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Es ist eigentlich ein relativ einfaches Mittel, das jetzt in den Frontline-Towns

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und Villages across Ukraine. Nets.

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Sie sind benutzt, die sogenannte Net-Tunnel, die bereits in den Kursen sind,

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in den Kursen, und jetzt über die Straße und über ihre Seite.

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Diese MESH-Structures sind nicht die Begründung gegen große Schahed-Drones oder

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Ballistik-Missiles, aber sie sind effektiv gegen FPV-Drones,

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sie unterbrechen und reduzieren die Kraft von Explosionen.

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Sie schlusser Leben, und sie sind eine sehr effektive Lösung.

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Oleg himself hat ein sehr vieles Nets bekommen, für seine Initiative durch Donations

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von ein Norwegen-Organisation.

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Aber was er braucht sind Arbeitsplätze, und die Polen mussten sie erect und

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bauen diese Protektive Korridors.

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Und das ist was frustriert ihn. In seiner Meinung, die Autorität sind einfach

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nicht genug zu schützen.

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Ein weiteres Problem, Oleg, ist etwas völlig anders. Als ich schon erwähnt,

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sie sind bereits zu finden, die Arbeit zu finden.

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At der moment, large numbers von Menschen, die Militärin sind,

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die Autorität sind, die Autorität zu verhören.

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As a resultatio, Oleg und seine Freunde sind immer weniger von volunteers für

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ihre Initiative. Das ist auch ein growing Problem und ein source von Kritikismus.

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People complain about the so-called TCCs, the Territorial Recruitment Centres,

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which many accuse of using heavy-handed methods, picking men up,

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taking them to training camps, and then sending them straight to the front.

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But Oleg has continued his work, regardless.

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Over the years, his initiative has laid water pipes, repaired roofs,

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and delivered humanitarian aid to neighbouring villages and to vulnerable residents

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in Posad Pokrovské itself.

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Ein Projekt in particular struck me as remarkable. Sie haben ein mobile Film gebaut.

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Using ihren Bus, sie fahren in die Stadt mit einem Bildschirm und Projekte,

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die Kindern die Chance zu sehen, zu sehen.

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I joined them in Lutsch, a village just outside Posad Pokrovské.

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Only 230 people live there, including 16 children.

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And I saw it for myself. Some of the children had come, and they were absolutely

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delighted. They were genuinely enjoying the screening.

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And that is exactly what Svitlana, who works at the local cultural center where

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the event took place, told me.

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This is a very important project for the children, because in the situation

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we are currently living in, Sie haben sehr wenige Möglichkeiten für entertainment.

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Sie verstehen die Situation, die wir jetzt faceieren können.

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Hier, Kinder können, sehen ein Film, haben Spaß und vergessen,

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um ein paar Jahre zu verändern, was in Ukraine passiert. Das ist extrem wichtig

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für Kinder, die diese Zeit zu tun.

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Aber zurück zu Posad Pokrovsky. Wenn du durch den Stadtteil gehst,

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du sehen viele Dinge anstatt.

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Erstens, der ist die Destruction, die ich gerade vorhin habe, der.

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Fresh Destruction Fresh Destruction more or less in good condition. Electricity is stable.

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All of this has taken time, but you can clearly see that things have changed for the better.

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That is what Lena told me, an elderly woman I met in a park with her granddaughter.

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The park itself is another beautiful project built by Oleg and his friends.

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They put up wooden pavilions, built a playground and installed exercise equipment.

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It is simply a lovely place where people can relax and where many families now

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come with their children.

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And among them was Lena, who had come to the park with her granddaughter.

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Hallo, mein Name ist Lina. Ich habe in Posad Pokrovski, für eine lange Zeit.

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Es ist viel besser hier jetzt als es, wenn wir erst kamen oder kamen.

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Wenn wir hier erst kamen, es gab nichts, aber Ruins. Wir puten viel effort,

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in die normalen Situation zu leben. Natürlich, es gibt noch viele Dinge,

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aber wenn man sieht, wie es jetzt ist, es macht man happy.

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Before, wenn wir in den Store sind, ich würde einfach cry. Wir schauten alle

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den verletzten Häusern, und ich würde cry. Es war painful, zu sehen. Ja.

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Now it's a little better. It's encouraging to see children appearing here again.

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You can hear songs, laughter in the evenings, and there are young people here too.

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But overall, of course, there is still a lot of work that needs to be done.

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We may need another 10 years to rebuild if we continue to receive help.

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On our own, we simply won't be able to rebuild all of this.

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And it wasn't just Lina's granddaughter who was there. There were plenty of

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other children as well. und es war wirklich wunderbar zu sehen.

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Of course, da war etwas etwas almost surreal über es. Der Tag bevor,

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ein Drone hat struck die Village und jetzt die Playground war full von Kindern,

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aber es war auch ein starker sign dass Leben in die Village war wieder moving.

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Die Kinder waren spielen, trinken, und es war schön, und du kannst dir wie stolz

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Oleg und sein Team waren von diesem Projekt, weil es in einem Weise hat es geholfen

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und zurückgebrachte Leben zurück zu der Village.

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But the question, of course, is whether reconstruction alone is enough.

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People also need to feel safe. And that is precisely the problem.

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Oleg had a drone detector with him, a small device that emits an acoustic warning

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whenever a drone is approaching.

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And time and again, you could hear it sounding the alarm. It meant that drones

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were operating in the immediate vicinity of the village.

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Not all of them made it into Posad Pokrovsky, but you could literally hear the danger.

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The detector would emit this strange beeping sound, und auf der Schreie sieht

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man, dass ein Drone zwei Kilometer entfernt war, drei Kilometer entfernt war,

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und natürlich, das ist unsettlich.

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One of Oleg's friends, who joined us later in the park, spoke very clearly about

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what he believes the village is still lacking and where he sees its biggest problems.

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Well, what is the situation in the village now? It's a simple village situation.

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There are no jobs, no factory or anything like that.

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How can I put it? Es gibt keine Schule, keine Kindergarten.

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Wie für die Wasser, ich weiß nicht.

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Die Wasser-Towers sind alt. Für eine richtige Wasser-System sollte man localen

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Wälder, so Menschen können die Wasser mit ihren Häusern zu bekommen.

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Es ist auch, dass die Eltern mit den Häusern zu helfen können.

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Insofern, wenn wir ehrlich sagen, sind viele, viele Dinge, die noch nicht getan haben.

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Und das beginnt mit den simplesten Dingen.

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Die Militärer müssen einfach mehr beherrschte, wie soll ich sagen,

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vor allem vor allem, die nicht die Militärer fahren.

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Sie sollten nicht die Militärer fahren.

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Die Militärer müssen die Militärer entfernt werden. Und dann können sie ein

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bisschen walken. Denn wer die meisten suffers? Die Militärer.

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Und danach wird der Militär nicht nur Kopeck verletzt.

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Was Volodymyr was talking about touches on an uncomfortable truth.

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The attack on the completely destroyed Okeiko gas station happened in the early afternoon of June 5th.

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At that time of day, there are obviously many civilian customers stopping to

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fill up their cars or buy something.

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Attacking such a place is indefensible, but at the same time it is also true

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that these gas stations serve as gathering points for soldiers.

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Many servicemen stop there and are often given free coffee or food.

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That inevitably turns these places into military targets.

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And that is exactly what Volodymyr was criticising. Of course,

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one might ask, if the situation in the village is becoming dangerous again, why do people stay?

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It is a question I have asked myself many times while travelling across Ukraine.

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Especially in towns and villages where the front line had moved dangerously

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close, where daily life had become genuinely life-threatening,

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I met people again and again and spoke with them and I still find it remarkable

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that so many choose to stay rather than flee.

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One of them was a young woman I met in the park. She was there with her two children.

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Her name is Alexandra and she returned to Posad Pokrovska a few years ago and

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she told me why she intends to stay.

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Weil es unsere Haus ist, unsere Eltern sind hier, wir sind hier,

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wir sind hier, wir sind hier.

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Und zu sagen, wir sind hier wirklich nicht irgendwo anders. Wir sind hier auch

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ein paar Jahre altes, und die Leute oft nicht verstehen, was es ist,

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was es zu verlieren, zu verlieren, zu verlieren, zu verlieren,

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zu verlieren, zu verlieren und zu verlieren.

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Besonders, keinem ist es komplett安全, unsere Säte sind hier, wahrscheinlich.

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Hier, you know everyone.

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You can visit your parents and relatives. We grew up here. This is our home.

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And staying also requires places for children. At least that is what Varsel believes.

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Varsel is one of Oleg's volunteers and has been involved in the initiative for years.

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His own son was killed in the war and perhaps because of that he is especially

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committed to helping children.

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He told me why this work matters so much to him.

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Olle hat mich mit ihm geholfen, und das ist wie ich mit ihm begonnen habe. Genau, Olle?

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Wir haben jetzt schon seit vier Jahren gearbeitet. Ich mache mir mein Best für alle Kinder.

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Ich möchte sie hier kommen, spenden die Zeit für alle, und sie können sich hier

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mit ihnen zusammenarbeiten. Als Sie sehen, Kinder kommen hier mit ihren Mothersen,

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Kinder und Jugendliche.

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Sie benutzen die Übersetzung, sie spielen, Wir haben hier auch geplanten.

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Das ist, was es all das alles ist.

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Als Abend kam, wir alle zusammengekommen sind. Es war eine Barbeque,

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und wir haben eine Vodka oder so.

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Es war eine warm und relaxed Atmosphäre, eine wirkliche schöne Nacht.

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Oleg's son played music. He's a very good guitarist.

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You could see parents sitting on benches with their children,

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young people hanging out together, and for a moment Posad Pokrovsky felt like

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an ordinary village again, a beautiful, peaceful place.

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The park, too, seemed almost idyllic. It was a wonderful evening,

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but of course everyone knows that things are becoming more difficult again in

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Posad Pokrovsky, and I found that deeply tragic, because this village had only just begun to recover.

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It had only just started to find its way back to normality.

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And now it is once again within range of Russian drones. Once again these drones

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are attacking the village and making life difficult for the people who live here.

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They simply are not being left in peace. And I honestly don't know what lies

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ahead for Posad Pokrovsky.

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My fear is that if the drone attacks intensify again, some people will decide

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to leave once more, if only to protect their children.

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But I hope that doesn't happen. I hope that all the positive things I saw in

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Posad Pokrovsky continue to take root.

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I hope the people here are given the chance to live normal lives again,

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to live in peace and in safety.

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That's what I wish for them. And we'll keep you updated. I'm certain that I'll

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be returning to Posad Pokrovska before long.

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And when I do, I'll tell you how the people here are getting on.

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That's it for today's episode of In Crisis Mode. This podcast was produced by Alexander Baumeister.

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He is a journalist and works for one of Funkamedia Group's radio stations.

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If you enjoyed this episode, please like and follow us.

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It helps make our work more visible. And here's a question for you.

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If a homeland needs protection in order to remain a homeland,

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who do you think bears the responsibility?

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The state? The military? International aid? Or first and foremost, the people themselves?

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Write to me and tell me what your answer is and why. chrisenmodus at funkamedian.de

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take care of yourselves. See you soon. Bye for now.