WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.720 Music. 00:00:10.904 --> 00:00:15.984 Okay, so this feels like a Bucket List moment for me right now, 00:00:16.124 --> 00:00:20.624 because it's my great honor now to introduce the man, the legend, Mr. 00:00:20.984 --> 00:00:25.144 Tim Schaefer, to the show. Thank you so much for being here. Yes. 00:00:26.644 --> 00:00:32.684 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to talk about your new game, Keeper. 00:00:33.824 --> 00:00:36.884 But before we do that, I have to start with a little confession. 00:00:39.544 --> 00:00:44.144 Because you're one of my idols. Oh, no. I've played all your games, 00:00:44.204 --> 00:00:46.884 and there's one that's especially dear to my heart is Monkey Island 2. 00:00:47.304 --> 00:00:54.124 But back in the days, I didn't exactly, like, buy it, but I kind of borrowed it from a friend. 00:00:54.744 --> 00:00:58.224 Problem is that you needed to have the code wheel to start the game, 00:00:58.964 --> 00:01:03.124 so I had to call him to get these little voodoo recipes to play. 00:01:03.284 --> 00:01:04.264 Sorry, I can't hear what you're saying. 00:01:05.904 --> 00:01:09.764 Liebe Regie, können wir das mal kurz schauen, weil Tim kann mich nicht hören. 00:01:11.844 --> 00:01:15.824 It looked like we're sitting close, but I can hear. It sounded like you were 00:01:15.824 --> 00:01:17.844 talking about software piracy. 00:01:18.224 --> 00:01:22.584 Yeah, maybe. Oh, no. So I was definitely talking about piracy. 00:01:22.724 --> 00:01:28.264 So I had to call this friend up all the time to get the voodoo recipes. 00:01:28.604 --> 00:01:33.644 And this is like acceptable for two to three times. but I really played your 00:01:33.644 --> 00:01:36.244 game a long time, for a year. 00:01:36.424 --> 00:01:40.204 So I had to call this guy for a year and get the voodoo recipes back. 00:01:40.424 --> 00:01:43.784 And now we're friends, but back in the day we were just classmates. 00:01:44.044 --> 00:01:48.564 So I feel there needs to be appropriate punishment for me for software piracy. 00:01:48.764 --> 00:01:53.224 So I brought something along where you can punish me. And this is... 00:01:53.864 --> 00:01:55.984 Can I have your bodyguard? My what? 00:01:57.244 --> 00:01:58.464 Transmitter, maybe it's... 00:02:02.037 --> 00:02:02.937 Ihr habt nichts gesehen. 00:02:07.177 --> 00:02:10.177 Hallo, hallo? Can you hear me? Oh, that's better. Thank you. 00:02:11.997 --> 00:02:15.657 Technical difficulties, but... It was the earthquake. It was the earthquake, really. 00:02:16.577 --> 00:02:21.137 So, I was saying, I pirated your game, and you need to punish me, 00:02:21.337 --> 00:02:25.377 and I brought some punishment that's appropriate, because I had a voodoo doll of me made. 00:02:26.897 --> 00:02:29.177 Just when the legs were sticking out, it was very disturbing. 00:02:29.177 --> 00:02:31.837 Ich bin mir gefühlt, aber das sieht ganz einfach wie du. 00:02:33.277 --> 00:02:36.577 Oh mein Gott. Ja. Du die voice, du die voice. 00:02:37.297 --> 00:02:41.277 Please, punish me. Ich bin ein Super Pirate. Ich muss mich verletzen. 00:02:42.157 --> 00:02:43.737 So, das ist für dich? Das ist jetzt schon wieder. 00:02:45.057 --> 00:02:50.097 Das ist was ich schon erwartet. Können wir das ganze Interview mit dem, das zu dir sagen? 00:02:50.757 --> 00:02:55.577 Und ich will lip-sync, was du sagen. Of course, Tim. Das ist eine gute Idee. 00:02:55.937 --> 00:02:58.917 Aber bitte, ich muss mich nicht zu hart. Ich muss mich leben. 00:02:59.177 --> 00:03:02.717 I'm sorry, but you pirated software, which is killing the games industry. 00:03:03.017 --> 00:03:06.877 I'm so sorry I didn't know what I was doing back then, but now I need to be 00:03:06.877 --> 00:03:10.057 punished. So here's some needles if you ever want to use them. 00:03:11.457 --> 00:03:15.477 He's got some... I'm just expecting your teeth. He's got no teeth. 00:03:19.577 --> 00:03:23.217 No, I don't think I would ever... Look, this is an adorable little puppet. 00:03:24.857 --> 00:03:28.737 Maybe inspiration for your next game about me as a puppet. Well, 00:03:28.797 --> 00:03:33.157 you know, I almost messed up all my job interviews. I don't know if you've heard that story. 00:03:33.337 --> 00:03:36.957 But when I was applying at LucasArts for a job, they said, have you played any 00:03:36.957 --> 00:03:39.897 of our games? And I loved their games. 00:03:40.497 --> 00:03:43.457 And I said, yeah, I really liked Ball Blaster. 00:03:44.697 --> 00:03:48.497 And he said, Ball Blaster, huh? That's what it was called when it was pirated. 00:03:50.057 --> 00:03:53.357 And I did have... I'm doing your laugh. 00:03:53.517 --> 00:03:58.337 I did have this disc of games my friend had made for me They had all pirated versions of their game. 00:03:59.417 --> 00:04:03.937 And then when I applied for the job, I hadn't played a lot of their later games. 00:04:04.017 --> 00:04:06.897 I'd only played the old 8-bit games, so I hadn't played Zach McCracken yet. 00:04:07.037 --> 00:04:10.657 And I had a job interview, so I went and I got a copy of Zach McCracken, 00:04:10.737 --> 00:04:14.577 but I couldn't really afford it. So I bought it and played it, and I returned it. 00:04:15.737 --> 00:04:17.757 So, no harm done. Okay. 00:04:19.277 --> 00:04:23.577 This is a load of my chest now, so I think we can start with a regularly scheduled 00:04:23.577 --> 00:04:28.557 program about Keeper, your new game dass du auf Gamescom aufschreiben kannst. 00:04:28.597 --> 00:04:32.457 Kannst du uns was es all about? Oh, Keeper. Ich bin glücklich, danke. 00:04:33.857 --> 00:04:36.517 Ich werde ihn jetzt hier sein. Ja. 00:04:38.227 --> 00:04:44.147 He's tired. It's been a hard day for him already. He's ashamed of his life of thievery. 00:04:46.027 --> 00:04:50.847 So yeah, we're here to talk about our newest Game Keeper. The last time I was 00:04:50.847 --> 00:04:52.347 at Gamescom was 16 years ago. 00:04:52.727 --> 00:04:55.447 For the first Gamescom, we were here to show Brutal Legend. 00:04:56.227 --> 00:04:59.987 Yeah, old days. I also like this one, yeah. 00:05:00.227 --> 00:05:03.467 And the art director on Brutal Legend was... Lee Perry. Lee Petty. 00:05:03.567 --> 00:05:04.547 Petty, sorry. Lee Petty. 00:05:05.547 --> 00:05:08.707 Lee Perry, I think, is a... Somebody else. Ska artist. 00:05:10.327 --> 00:05:14.227 And Lidus has an amazing visual style, which you saw in Brutal Legend and other 00:05:14.227 --> 00:05:15.867 games. He was an art director for Broken Age. 00:05:16.207 --> 00:05:20.067 And he's also very technically minded, so he understands things about shaders 00:05:20.067 --> 00:05:21.527 and things about how things are rendered. 00:05:22.027 --> 00:05:25.687 And so you put them together, and it's like you're able to envision and also 00:05:25.687 --> 00:05:28.327 create these amazing-looking worlds. 00:05:28.927 --> 00:05:35.227 And after being an art director, he started to do his own projects. 00:05:35.447 --> 00:05:38.767 And other than me, Er ist derjenige, der die meisten Spiele gemacht hat. 00:05:39.227 --> 00:05:42.587 Er hat Stacking gemacht, das ist ein Spiel mit jedem Charakter, 00:05:42.727 --> 00:05:44.867 der kleine Russische Nestein-Doll, eine Matryoshka-Doll. Ja. 00:05:45.187 --> 00:05:50.767 Und dann hat er Headlander, das ist eine Metroidvania, über eine Fliege in eine Spacesuit-Helmet. Ja. 00:05:51.187 --> 00:05:57.367 Und dann hat er Rad, das ist ein roguelike-Action-Games in der 80s-Post-Apocalyptic-Wasteland. 00:05:57.827 --> 00:06:01.747 Und wir haben über das nächste Spiel gesprochen. Und dann ist das Zeitpunkt, 00:06:01.747 --> 00:06:04.947 das wir in Xbox haben. Wir haben eine Indie-Studio für 20 Jahre. 00:06:05.387 --> 00:06:07.967 Und wir sind so into Xbox und wir sind, das ist eine andere Situation. 00:06:08.307 --> 00:06:13.087 Wir sind nicht aus dem Geld, wir haben Support und Finanzen und wir haben nicht zu geben. 00:06:13.487 --> 00:06:15.327 Und wir haben nicht zu geben, die Publisher zu haben. Und Lee ist so, 00:06:15.327 --> 00:06:17.487 ich will take advantage of that. Ich will machen etwas wirklich weird. 00:06:17.687 --> 00:06:21.647 Ich will machen etwas, dass wir nicht mehr haben. Das ist der normalen Prozess. 00:06:22.467 --> 00:06:25.147 Wir haben dieses wirklich commerciales Ding. Es ist über eine Walking Lighthouse. 00:06:25.647 --> 00:06:29.207 So er hat die Idee für Keeper. 00:06:29.427 --> 00:06:33.707 Also er ist inspiriert bei, wir waren alle LockedInside während der globalen Pandemie. 00:06:33.707 --> 00:06:41.187 Wir können nicht tun, except for er würde oft take breaks bei taking long hikes 00:06:41.187 --> 00:06:42.907 in nature in den Häusern, 00:06:43.427 --> 00:06:47.707 und er hat sich in die Häusern über diese Zeit für Humanität und wie nature 00:06:47.707 --> 00:06:53.447 weitergeht und die Interaktion zwischen all den differenten Formen und wie sie 00:06:53.447 --> 00:06:56.167 über Zeit metamorphisieren. 00:06:57.707 --> 00:07:03.707 Und über die Seasons und so, das kind of Inspiration was er wirklich relaxing in nature. 00:07:03.847 --> 00:07:09.667 Aber auch, Lee ist ein weirder Typ. Er ließ viele strange images und movies 00:07:09.667 --> 00:07:13.167 und surrealist painters wie Dolly und Max Ernst. 00:07:13.307 --> 00:07:19.947 Und auch films er gab, wie The Dark Crystal, die wirklich fantasy-like und mysteriös 00:07:19.947 --> 00:07:23.567 und childlike, aber auch creepy und dark. 00:07:23.787 --> 00:07:28.707 So, putting die zwei ideas zusammen, die chillen der Natur und die weirdenste 00:07:28.707 --> 00:07:31.767 von den Artistischen Inspirations, zu machen, das ist ein Erfahrung, 00:07:32.387 --> 00:07:34.707 das ist both weird und chill. 00:07:35.805 --> 00:07:40.885 Das ist was Keeper ist. Wir haben gesehen ein Trailer vor, und ich war gefragt, 00:07:41.005 --> 00:07:42.305 wie es das eigentlich spielt? 00:07:42.405 --> 00:07:45.405 Wie ist es, wie es die Lighthouse spielt? Oder ist das Little Bird auch? 00:07:46.385 --> 00:07:52.405 Ja, Sie sind die Lighthouse. In der opening, die Lighthouse ist ein normaler, Ständig Lighthouse. 00:07:52.545 --> 00:07:57.685 Und eine große Seabird ist, und es landet auf die Lighthouse, 00:07:57.685 --> 00:07:59.865 und es scheint, zu erwarten. 00:08:00.105 --> 00:08:04.085 Und es kommt sofort auf die Welt, und es stummelt und fällt auf den Boden, 00:08:04.085 --> 00:08:08.145 und dann sprouts diese Legs, die es dann zu stehen und starte zu gehen. 00:08:08.545 --> 00:08:11.065 Ja. So als Spieler, Sie kontrollieren die Lighthouse, um es herumzummen, 00:08:11.065 --> 00:08:16.025 und Sie also aimieren die Lichtbeam von der Lighthouse, um die Environment zu sehen. 00:08:16.025 --> 00:08:20.245 Und in einem broaden Weg kann es sich, die Dinge zu kommen, oder Sie kann es 00:08:20.245 --> 00:08:23.265 sich nicht mehr auswählen, und dann haben Sie auch eine sehr Fokus-Beam, 00:08:23.285 --> 00:08:27.045 dass Sie sich auf bestimmte Objekte ansehen, um ein mehr puzzlerer Interaktion 00:08:27.045 --> 00:08:29.565 zu machen, ein mehr Powerful Interaktion zu machen. Ja. 00:08:30.125 --> 00:08:34.685 Und dann, Sie sehen die Seabird, der die die haben die die Twig, 00:08:37.205 --> 00:08:37.765 out. 00:08:43.485 --> 00:08:47.125 To land there and maybe turn 00:08:47.125 --> 00:08:52.125 a crank or do something that causes an interaction so with those the light and 00:08:52.125 --> 00:08:56.225 the focus light and the Twig interactions you can solve puzzles and just kind 00:08:56.225 --> 00:09:00.925 of explore the world and enjoy the ambiance of this magical strange world that 00:09:00.925 --> 00:09:04.205 you made you You said the game is going to be weird but chill. 00:09:04.685 --> 00:09:09.405 And what I took away from the trailer is that it's completely without words. 00:09:09.585 --> 00:09:10.705 There's no dialogue in it. 00:09:11.225 --> 00:09:16.565 Why did you choose this path and what were the challenges trying to tell a narrative without words? 00:09:17.005 --> 00:09:22.565 I think it's just an interesting creative challenge that Lee wanted to take on. 00:09:22.725 --> 00:09:25.005 And I'm the real wordy one at the office. 00:09:25.405 --> 00:09:29.445 My natural instinct is to solve problems by writing a cutscene for them. 00:09:29.445 --> 00:09:32.705 Und Lee ist ein Artist und erinnert sich sehr, sehr visuell. 00:09:33.005 --> 00:09:36.185 Und ich glaube, die animatoren auf dem Team sind die kinder animatoren, 00:09:36.205 --> 00:09:38.165 die machen, dass sie auch wenn die Völfe ist. 00:09:38.485 --> 00:09:42.865 So, sie haben eine Art Art Art, die Emotionen und Meaning, durch die physicalen 00:09:42.865 --> 00:09:45.905 Aktions der Charaktere. Und auch die Sound Design, die Musik, alles. 00:09:46.305 --> 00:09:50.305 Es ist eine Geschichte, die eigentlich sehr emotional ist und hat Charakter-Arcs 00:09:50.305 --> 00:09:53.545 über die Charaktere, aber nicht nur ein einziges Dialog gesprochen. 00:09:56.259 --> 00:10:00.519 Der Spiel war das Psychonauts 2. Es war eine große Odyssey für die Studio. 00:10:00.739 --> 00:10:04.539 Du hast eine Dokumentary über ihn. Es war ein großes Spiel im Endeffekt. 00:10:07.839 --> 00:10:13.379 Wie funktioniert das Keeper? Ist Psychonauts 2 ein viel größer Spiel? 00:10:13.599 --> 00:10:15.199 Ist Keeper die gleiche Größe? 00:10:15.939 --> 00:10:22.219 Es ist ein kleiner Team und ein kleiner Länge der Gameplay. Lee estimates es um 6-8 Stunden. 00:10:23.219 --> 00:10:29.339 Aber es ist großartig in der Präsentation. Sie wirklich wollen die visuals pushen. 00:10:29.499 --> 00:10:32.439 Das ist alles in Unreal 5.5, ich denke. 00:10:32.619 --> 00:10:37.919 Und sie wirklich wollten ein paar spezielle Renderen Techniken das unsere Team 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:39.439 kamen mit, die sind custom zu dem Spiel. 00:10:39.619 --> 00:10:42.419 So in some ways ist es eher ambitious, in der es versucht, viel zu tun, 00:10:42.419 --> 00:10:46.239 viel zu sehen, viel zu sehen, viel zu sehen, viel zu sehen, viel zu sehen, 00:10:46.319 --> 00:10:47.879 viel zu sehen, viel zu sehen, viel zu sehen, und viel zu sehen. 00:10:48.619 --> 00:10:51.439 So it's very big in its visual ambitions. 00:10:52.419 --> 00:10:55.359 So before you mentioned that Lee came up with this idea, right around the time 00:10:55.359 --> 00:10:57.419 you were acquired by Xbox, 00:10:57.939 --> 00:11:01.539 that you now have the funding to do any game, do you still have to convince 00:11:01.539 --> 00:11:05.839 someone at Xbox to actually get games made, or is it like a carte blanche, 00:11:05.979 --> 00:11:09.119 do your crazy thing and we'll just pay the bill in the end? 00:11:09.359 --> 00:11:13.799 We share with them what we want to do, but they've never said anything. 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:17.399 Ich denke, dass wir uns keine Kreative-Stipulationen haben. 00:11:19.579 --> 00:11:24.039 Sie wollten mit uns arbeiten, weil wir uns waren, weil wir jetzt sind. 00:11:24.339 --> 00:11:27.139 Und wir haben uns zu machen, dass wir ein gutes Spiel geben geben, 00:11:27.139 --> 00:11:32.739 die viel Wert und Wert auf Game Pass und andere Plätze haben. 00:11:32.939 --> 00:11:35.959 Weil sie ein paar andere Bases haben. Und ich fühle mich, dass es ein type von 00:11:35.959 --> 00:11:37.399 Spiel, dass nur Double Fine kann machen. 00:11:37.739 --> 00:11:40.099 Und wir können das wie niemand anderes machen. Und ich denke, 00:11:40.199 --> 00:11:42.079 das ist das wir uns zu offer. Ja. 00:11:45.132 --> 00:11:50.172 Ist da noch ein Artist oder ein Actor oder ein Musiker oder jemanden, 00:11:50.212 --> 00:11:51.952 du willst noch mit arbeiten? 00:11:52.492 --> 00:11:54.452 Das ist noch meine Chance, zu rekrutieren? 00:11:55.092 --> 00:11:57.492 Ja. Let's make it happen. Oh, I'm already an Musiker. 00:11:59.932 --> 00:12:04.932 Sie sind unsere Inspirations in the Moment. Wir waren in Brutal Legend und wir designt den Charakter. 00:12:05.072 --> 00:12:08.052 Und wir haben gesprochen, Scott Campbell, der designt den Charakter. 00:12:08.092 --> 00:12:11.632 Und wir waren, er ist ein bisschen Glenn Danzig und ein bisschen Jack Black. 00:12:11.632 --> 00:12:14.892 Nicht, wenn sie ein Kind hatte, aber wenn sie einfach nur ein Kind hat, 00:12:15.152 --> 00:12:15.552 für ein bisschen Zeit gemacht. 00:12:16.532 --> 00:12:20.752 Und dann, wenn wir über die Voice sprechen, wir denken oft, du willst jemanden 00:12:20.752 --> 00:12:24.212 wie Jack Black, die die Voice zu machen. Und dann sind wir, was wir können? Ja. 00:12:25.312 --> 00:12:30.132 Und wir haben das gemacht. Das hat uns die Courage zu approachen Ozzy Osbourne, 00:12:30.432 --> 00:12:33.752 Rest in Peace, und all die andere Heavy Metal-ikons wir haben für das Spiel. 00:12:34.692 --> 00:12:38.812 Weil viele Leute denken, dass sie unabhängig sind, weil sie so famous sind. 00:12:39.472 --> 00:12:42.752 A lot of those people are just really creative individuals that like putting 00:12:42.752 --> 00:12:45.272 on a show and they want to be involved in creative projects. 00:12:45.452 --> 00:12:50.472 And if you can connect with them as a creator, they are just really fun to work 00:12:50.472 --> 00:12:52.592 with and they add a lot of creativity to the project. 00:12:52.892 --> 00:12:58.592 So you're saying that this has to come out of an organic process of brainstorming 00:12:58.592 --> 00:13:01.192 and it's not like you have any specific names in mind. 00:13:01.652 --> 00:13:03.872 You have one on your bucket list you still want to work with. 00:13:04.252 --> 00:13:08.552 Yeah, I'm trying to... Well, of course, the Lighthouse Film mit Robert Pattinson. 00:13:08.792 --> 00:13:12.232 Ich bin kidding. Christopher Walker. 00:13:13.752 --> 00:13:18.572 They know a lot about Lighthouses. It would be great to have them booked for 00:13:18.572 --> 00:13:19.792 the game and come into the studio 00:13:19.792 --> 00:13:22.692 and then be absolutely silent because there's no dialogue in the game. 00:13:22.932 --> 00:13:26.412 But we still, the spirit is there. Um... 00:13:29.513 --> 00:13:32.453 So I wouldn't be doing my job if I wasn't asking you this, because in the beginning 00:13:32.453 --> 00:13:36.173 you said that when you were acquired by Microsoft, this gave you the freedom 00:13:36.173 --> 00:13:41.253 to do the games you want to do and have them do the financing side. 00:13:41.713 --> 00:13:45.333 Now there were all these headlines in the last month, there were lots of layoffs 00:13:45.333 --> 00:13:47.833 at Microsoft and studio closures. 00:13:48.433 --> 00:13:52.913 Has your, I would say, situation or your outlook changed? 00:13:53.053 --> 00:13:58.173 Is your mind still at ease with this, or has this somehow impacted your whole 00:13:58.173 --> 00:14:01.213 outlook? Well, I mean, no one likes... I mean, Layoffs are horrible. 00:14:01.613 --> 00:14:05.693 They're really upsetting. And we've had multiple games cancelled in our history, 00:14:05.713 --> 00:14:10.333 but we've been around for 25 years, and the industry has never been... 00:14:10.333 --> 00:14:13.993 It's never been a place where you can just be like, we're good forever. 00:14:14.113 --> 00:14:18.213 I mean, we've had very close brushes with death at the studio. 00:14:18.413 --> 00:14:21.553 We've had Psychonauts and Grit of Legend were both cancelled, 00:14:21.793 --> 00:14:23.353 and we thought we were going to, you know... 00:14:23.353 --> 00:14:27.853 And we had a lot of luck, and a lot of studios hadn't made it. 00:14:27.853 --> 00:14:33.013 Und es ist nicht easy, aber wir haben immer versucht, dass wir wirklich nimble 00:14:33.013 --> 00:14:34.313 als ein Projekt, als ein Unternehmen. 00:14:35.713 --> 00:14:42.173 Und wir haben versucht, zu getren. So es ist nicht, ich weiß nicht, 00:14:42.413 --> 00:14:46.693 es war ein wirklich bad, ein tough Jahr, ich denke, für viele Leute. 00:14:46.813 --> 00:14:49.973 Und so, ich fühle mich ein bisschen für die Leute, die wir affected by it. 00:14:49.973 --> 00:14:54.413 Aber luckily, wir waren nicht affected und wir sind nicht mehr approachend, 00:14:54.413 --> 00:14:59.073 wie wir close zu being affected. und so we mostly just focus on, you know. 00:15:00.841 --> 00:15:06.081 You just make really great games. Because any studio or anyone in the game industry, 00:15:06.161 --> 00:15:07.261 you never know what's going to happen. 00:15:07.521 --> 00:15:11.841 And you really just have to focus on your game and putting really great art out there. 00:15:12.201 --> 00:15:15.441 And so far, that's kept us out of trouble. 00:15:16.341 --> 00:15:19.321 So if you were young again and 00:15:19.321 --> 00:15:23.401 had to choose a profession, would you still become a game developer today? 00:15:23.961 --> 00:15:27.041 Or would you advise against it with a current landscape? Okay. 00:15:27.681 --> 00:15:31.161 Well, it's a rough industry for a lot of people. 00:15:31.481 --> 00:15:34.681 On the other hand, it's so much easier to make a game by yourself. 00:15:34.881 --> 00:15:41.581 These days you can pull down a choice of game engines, Unreal, or a lot of them. 00:15:41.681 --> 00:15:43.941 And you can learn how to program on YouTube. 00:15:46.401 --> 00:15:51.441 There's so many ways to just create a game all by yourself and even market it now with social media. 00:15:51.641 --> 00:15:56.761 So the barriers for entering are so low that people can just start making games. 00:15:56.981 --> 00:16:01.101 Und sie haben nicht mehr, ich bin, ich habe viel Geld von einem Publisher gemacht. 00:16:01.241 --> 00:16:03.741 Sie arbeiten bei LucasArts für 10 Jahre, hat mir viele Dinge gemacht. 00:16:04.041 --> 00:16:06.321 Aber ich war immer jealous, dass viele Leute einfach nur aus dem Spiel zu machen, 00:16:07.201 --> 00:16:10.941 und sie haben auch zu, du hast, die Geld verdient, und Dinge wie das. 00:16:13.301 --> 00:16:18.421 Ich denke, es ist ein Kindes Job, das man wirklich braucht, zu arbeiten in der Games-Industrie. 00:16:18.501 --> 00:16:21.341 Die meisten Menschen, die in der Games-Industrie machen, weil sie einfach nur haben. 00:16:21.541 --> 00:16:24.061 Sie sind einfach so, ich werde ein Spiel machen, und ich hoffe, 00:16:24.121 --> 00:16:25.321 ich kann das als ein Leben machen. 00:16:26.341 --> 00:16:30.921 So Keeper is coming to PC and Xbox on October 17, if I'm not mistaken. 00:16:31.621 --> 00:16:35.801 And with all the other Xbox games that are currently making their way over to 00:16:35.801 --> 00:16:38.781 PlayStation, we already have PlayStation plans for Keeper. 00:16:39.821 --> 00:16:45.481 Right now, we're just announcing that we're on Xbox and PC. Day one, Game Pass. 00:16:45.941 --> 00:16:49.741 And that's the platform we're doing. All right. Thank you so much. 00:16:50.121 --> 00:16:54.121 It was a great pleasure. Awesome. Thank you for letting me touch your voodoo 00:16:54.121 --> 00:16:57.621 doll. Ich fühle mich schlecht. Ich fühle mich jetzt. Ich muss es jetzt krater es jetzt. 00:16:58.821 --> 00:17:03.301 Geh zu sleep. Geh zu sleep, little Michael. Oh, es ist sad. Er ist still crying. 00:17:04.841 --> 00:17:09.441 Does das fühle ich? Nicht für mich. Das ist der größte Moment in meinem Jahr 00:17:09.441 --> 00:17:11.981 so far. Vielen Dank für mich hier, Tim Schafer. 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:27.330 Music.